Worth Fighting For
To me Se7en, is the closest thing I have seen to a perfect film.
But this post is not about that. It's about the final line in the film.
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "the world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part".
I feel a little funny, quoting a quote which is about a quote, but I'm sure we can deal with that.
I wonder about this quote. I wonder about it's meaning. Its clever, and plays with my mind.
But I also wonder, why the film Se7en ends with this. What is it saying about our world?
What does it mean? That the world is not a fine place, but still it's worth fighting for?
Therefore, it is a bad place, and its worth fighting for?
Is it a dark grey place full of complex frailties, hopes, fears and dreams? Is the world actually a complicated and convoluted mess that is only perceived by the imaginations of the people experiencing it such as the simple contrast of the optimist and the pessimist? Is the world really just a reflection of yourself and thus always worth fighting for?
Or is the quote wrong?
Is the world a fine place, and worth fighting for? Is the world not a fine place and not worth fighting for?
I wonder, after events like Yesterday's massacre in Virginia, if we can ever say 'the world is a fine place'.
I don't have answers to the questions the quote raises.
But I do know, that Heaven is a fine place, and one well worth fighting (spiritually) for.
We need to fight our own spiritual fights, as well as encourage other people to know about the fine place that is Heaven.
Jim
But this post is not about that. It's about the final line in the film.
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "the world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part".
I feel a little funny, quoting a quote which is about a quote, but I'm sure we can deal with that.
I wonder about this quote. I wonder about it's meaning. Its clever, and plays with my mind.
But I also wonder, why the film Se7en ends with this. What is it saying about our world?
What does it mean? That the world is not a fine place, but still it's worth fighting for?
Therefore, it is a bad place, and its worth fighting for?
Is it a dark grey place full of complex frailties, hopes, fears and dreams? Is the world actually a complicated and convoluted mess that is only perceived by the imaginations of the people experiencing it such as the simple contrast of the optimist and the pessimist? Is the world really just a reflection of yourself and thus always worth fighting for?
Or is the quote wrong?
Is the world a fine place, and worth fighting for? Is the world not a fine place and not worth fighting for?
I wonder, after events like Yesterday's massacre in Virginia, if we can ever say 'the world is a fine place'.
I don't have answers to the questions the quote raises.
But I do know, that Heaven is a fine place, and one well worth fighting (spiritually) for.
We need to fight our own spiritual fights, as well as encourage other people to know about the fine place that is Heaven.
Jim
posted by Jim at
4:48 PM
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Seven: A dark film about orginal sin. Ironic that on one level (but not on the ultimate level), it is a deeply CHristian film.
(Although if anyone has an overactive imagination, then its probably a no go.)
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Justin, at 5:18 AM
Days Left at Jimmy’s Current Job= A
Blogging = B
As A approaches 0
B approaches ∞
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Anonymous, at 4:22 PM
...i guess you could argue that the world as it is meant to be is worth fighting for...the world you see when you look at God's beautiful creation that we dwell amongst...but of course it is us in the world that make it unworthy...and the world as it is meant to be is what Heaven will be anyway...
I guess it relates nicely to Wal's sermon this evening on being strangers in this world hey...we are living (and fighting) for the world to come...
meanwhile...Se7en is a good movie, i feel like i need t osee it again now...
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Anonymous, at 9:19 PM
fuck jesus you are all idiot morons
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Anonymous, at 9:55 PM
Somerset is saying the world is not a fine place, though I wouldn't go so far as to say he says it's a bad place. I think you could clarify 'fighting for' as similar to fighting a disease.
The world is a diseased place, but it's worth fighting for. It may never be clean but you would very much have it and fight in it.
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Anonymous, at 7:01 PM
You do realise that the guy you are quoting shot himself in the head, right?
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Anonymous, at 12:21 PM
A very interesting read and definitely one of my personal favorite quotes. I didn't remember it strangely from Se7en but an episode of Criminal Minds. From the lense I currently am viewing through on some levels I agree the world is a fine place and in some ways it isn't. It is definitely not a fine place in how we treat one another, even in our daily lives.
People stopped existing for each other and for their individual self a long time ago. I don't know why, we could argue it forever, but that is what I feel and see every day at the college I go to. In many ways I think the world is not a fine place b/c people fail to stop to think, to "cease their work and look around" as Leo Tolstoy would put it. And it's hard to be a person trying to help others better their lives when most people could care less or would only care when they have the extra time or derive some utility out of it.
I do think the world is a fine place though, not in how it operates but in its beauty. From working with mentally disadvantaged women in particular I've learned so much about perseverance just from seeing afucking smile or laugh on their face and I think to myself, how can I be so selfish in my own existence and bitch and moan about petty things, when there are people who are deriving the most joy out of life who have had more taken away from them than any person deserves.
Such thoughts make me think the world is a very fine place, but in terms of the beauty in it that I feel God places in the most hidden of places. and it's therefore worth fighting for.
I'm on the verge of graduating with a degree in Finance and Economics, Magna Cum Laude, in 2010. and I have already decided not to pursue that path because of just the things I've seen and experienced lately that make me feel that there are certain things I'd personally rather be fighting for. So yes and yes, for me, through my lense and my strange and deranged experience of this world, I do believe this world is completely imperfect, but perfect in that. It's a miserable world for many people, a fine one in the good that is evoked or reminded of in its simplicity, and is worth fighting for at any cost if you have the slightest desire to do so.
I'm happy to have stumbled upon this b/c I was looking up the direct quote and found your blog. It's cool to see that people are thinking about such things so intently. Now I'm going to have to rewatch Se7en too. lol.
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Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts, at 6:31 PM
It's actually a misquote...
The Hemingway quote says "...and worth THE fighting for..."
At first it seems like a superficial change, but it makes all the difference...
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Anonymous, at 8:20 PM
I personally believe that even though the world is as ugly as it can get basically, it is STILL a place fighting for. Because it is our home, place of beauty, and above else, good must overcome the evil. And there ARE also good people in the world, not just bad.
It is what we choose to be that makes us who we are, not what we want to be, or what we need to be.
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Zhinarkos, at 1:28 AM
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